Comments on: Student claims free speech violation http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/ Serving the students of the University of Nevada, Reno since 1893. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:11:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: liz http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-4207 liz Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:37:55 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-4207 If you don't like the policies in the ResHalls that have been in place for many years before you moved in, don't live there. No one is forcing you. The ACLU....please. This is like someone not reading the fine print at Best Buy and complaining that they charged for fees they never heard of. Don't sign a contract if you don't agree with it. It's a ludicrous statement to say this violates freedom of speech; the college is free to set rules that don't violate your rights to an extent that doesn't overrides the constitution if integrity or safety is concerned. Yes, the first Ammendment you like to quote is important, but the policy is "no objects in the windows"- period. THAT supersedes your so-called rights. I have been to several universities nationwide and MOST have the exact same policy. It seems on one hand that students are sheltered and really don't understand the way things work and on the other only want what they want. Year round, I got warnings for lights being too close or other things too close to the window. These warnings were because they fell when I wasn't there and "touched" the windows. I remedied this because it was the agreement I signed. Holidays don't go unnoticed. I put up window clings and had to remove them, as did everyone. I agree everyone should be treated the same. Bottom line is, not everything is done to restrict or prohibit rights. The college is a business as all colleges are and are allowed to set rules. If you don’t like the policies in the ResHalls that have been in place for many years before you moved in, don’t live there. No one is forcing you.

The ACLU….please. This is like someone not reading the fine print at Best Buy and complaining that they charged for fees they never heard of. Don’t sign a contract if you don’t agree with it.

It’s a ludicrous statement to say this violates freedom of speech; the college is free to set rules that don’t violate your rights to an extent that doesn’t overrides the constitution if integrity or safety is concerned. Yes, the first Ammendment you like to quote is important, but the policy is “no objects in the windows”- period. THAT supersedes your so-called rights. I have been to several universities nationwide and MOST have the exact same policy. It seems on one hand that students are sheltered and really don’t understand the way things work and on the other only want what they want.

Year round, I got warnings for lights being too close or other things too close to the window. These warnings were because they fell when I wasn’t there and “touched” the windows. I remedied this because it was the agreement I signed. Holidays don’t go unnoticed. I put up window clings and had to remove them, as did everyone. I agree everyone should be treated the same.

Bottom line is, not everything is done to restrict or prohibit rights. The college is a business as all colleges are and are allowed to set rules.

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]]> By: John Mackay http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-3142 John Mackay Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:04:44 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-3142 ...I'd hit it! …I’d hit it!
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]]> By: Rebecca http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1800 Rebecca Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:15:00 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1800 Good for her! It's good to see someone finally fighting this generalization of a rule. Good for her! It’s good to see someone finally fighting this generalization of a rule.
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]]> By: John Russell http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1625 John Russell Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:39:15 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1625 The pains of bureaucracy are far reaching, and thus presents the problems when property is owned by the state. I love how quickly everyone cries bloody 1st amendment, as if that bears ANY weight or is applicable at ALL in the dorms. Why has no one considered the other constitutional rights that are waived when choosing to live in the resident dorms: Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. - One may not even have an air soft gun without being put on one years probation! Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. - Resident Dorms can search your room with police at any time with no probable cause whatsoever! So, don't hold your breath when the State discards "Constitutional Rights"... because when it boils down to it: "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." -Thomas Jefferson The pains of bureaucracy are far reaching, and thus presents the problems when property is owned by the state. I love how quickly everyone cries bloody 1st amendment, as if that bears ANY weight or is applicable at ALL in the dorms. Why has no one considered the other constitutional rights that are waived when choosing to live in the resident dorms:
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. - One may not even have an air soft gun without being put on one years probation!
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. - Resident Dorms can search your room with police at any time with no probable cause whatsoever!

So, don’t hold your breath when the State discards
“Constitutional Rights”… because when it boils down to it:
“The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.”
-Thomas Jefferson

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]]> By: David http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1404 David Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:32:59 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1404 Ok so as far as I as I can tell Maritza, entered into a signed contract with Reslife and should be held accountable for following the rules she willing signed when she moved into the res halls. I do not agree with the contract and do feel that it is in violation of free speech but when she entered that contract she should have brought up the issue then. She is not the victim here and I am tierd of her portraying herself as a poor innocent sole. She knew what she was getting into when she put them up and she knew what was going to follow next. I am disheartened that she was appointed to the Senate as well. She is only trying to rally support and didn't deserve the position. There were far more qualified applicants and I did not vote for her. Ok so as far as I as I can tell Maritza, entered into a signed contract with Reslife and should be held accountable for following the rules she willing signed when she moved into the res halls. I do not agree with the contract and do feel that it is in violation of free speech but when she entered that contract she should have brought up the issue then. She is not the victim here and I am tierd of her portraying herself as a poor innocent sole. She knew what she was getting into when she put them up and she knew what was going to follow next. I am disheartened that she was appointed to the Senate as well. She is only trying to rally support and didn’t deserve the position. There were far more qualified applicants and I did not vote for her.
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]]> By: Marysa http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1106 Marysa Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:58:27 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1106 Thank you Morgan and Joseph for the things you said. I agree with the decorations in the window comment. It isn't fair that Maritza has to sacrifice her freedom of self expression when Halloween and Christmas supporters can have theirs, albeit I value everyone's personal opinion and believe this policy SUCKS. I'm here for you Maritza, my best friend, 100% of the way and you know you have thousands of other supporters. Don't stop till it's a success. Thank you Morgan and Joseph for the things you said. I agree with the decorations in the window comment. It isn’t fair that Maritza has to sacrifice her freedom of self expression when Halloween and Christmas supporters can have theirs, albeit I value everyone’s personal opinion and believe this policy SUCKS. I’m here for you Maritza, my best friend, 100% of the way and you know you have thousands of other supporters. Don’t stop till it’s a success.
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]]> By: Joseph http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1070 Joseph Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:44:59 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1070 Just because a policy exists doesn't make it a just policy. Think about that one Allan. Restricting all speech, which is what RHA is doing, sounds very 1984-esque. I support Senator Maritza Perez in her campaign against censorship. Just because a policy exists doesn’t make it a just policy. Think about that one Allan. Restricting all speech, which is what RHA is doing, sounds very 1984-esque. I support Senator Maritza Perez in her campaign against censorship.
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]]> By: Morgan http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1054 Morgan Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:41:59 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-1054 Yes, there is a section in the student handbook that states that signs may not be put in the windows. HOWEVER, that needs to be changed, it is a blatant violation of free speech. Its a college campus, college is all about expressing your opinions. Putting a campaign sign or a peace sticker on your window hardly creates a hostile living environment. I also love how people can put Halloween and Christmas decorations in their windows and it seems to go unnoticed, but as soon as you put a campaign poster in your window its all over. Yes, there is a section in the student handbook that states that signs may not be put in the windows. HOWEVER, that needs to be changed, it is a blatant violation of free speech. Its a college campus, college is all about expressing your opinions. Putting a campaign sign or a peace sticker on your window hardly creates a hostile living environment. I also love how people can put Halloween and Christmas decorations in their windows and it seems to go unnoticed, but as soon as you put a campaign poster in your window its all over.
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]]> By: Evan Grill http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-970 Evan Grill Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:23:59 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-970 I officially have no stance on this subject, but I think it needs to be restated that when one signs up to live in the residence halls, they agree to abide by the guidelines set forth in the Residence Hall Standards of Conduct which can be found in the student planner all residents receive. The pertinent guideline in this instance is item P of section XI. Prohibited Activities: "Attaching signs or objects in or around windows in a way that makes them visible from outside. ..." I officially have no stance on this subject, but I think it needs to be restated that when one signs up to live in the residence halls, they agree to abide by the guidelines set forth in the Residence Hall Standards of Conduct which can be found in the student planner all residents receive.

The pertinent guideline in this instance is item P of section XI. Prohibited Activities:

“Attaching signs or objects in or around windows in a way that makes them visible from outside. …”

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]]> By: Allan Tan http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-965 Allan Tan Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:38:47 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-965 I'm not sure how you mean, but maybe I did overstep my bounds with that first comment. And I am not trying to control anyone's life. God knows controlling my own is hard enough! I’m not sure how you mean, but maybe I did overstep my bounds with that first comment.

And I am not trying to control anyone’s life. God knows controlling my own is hard enough!

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]]> By: Cali http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-953 Cali Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:15:11 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-953 Allan Tan- - You need to get off your high horse and use this "power" you have as a way to benefit your FELLOW students not try to control their lives you power hungry creep. Allan Tan- - You need to get off your high horse and use this “power” you have as a way to benefit your FELLOW students not try to control their lives you power hungry creep.
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]]> By: Matt http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-932 Matt Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:20:16 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-932 While I don't particularly care about the "victim," Residential Life and Housing are the biggest collective assholes on campus. A word of advice to incoming freshmen: don't live there. You sign away all your rights and you can wind up homeless with no refunds (and maybe even an extra fee or two). Rent an apartment or buy a house. The amount of money you spend in the dorms can be better spent, and at least if you're putting it towards a house you'll have something to show (and maybe even sell) later. Hell, live with a relative. I know it can be unbearable, but at least that's free as opposed to paying to live with someone who's a total douche. While I don’t particularly care about the “victim,” Residential Life and Housing are the biggest collective assholes on campus. A word of advice to incoming freshmen: don’t live there.

You sign away all your rights and you can wind up homeless with no refunds (and maybe even an extra fee or two).

Rent an apartment or buy a house. The amount of money you spend in the dorms can be better spent, and at least if you’re putting it towards a house you’ll have something to show (and maybe even sell) later.

Hell, live with a relative. I know it can be unbearable, but at least that’s free as opposed to paying to live with someone who’s a total douche.

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]]> By: Zach E http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-919 Zach E Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:23:57 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-919 Free Speech lives at UNR!! -- It's just going to take a brave student like Maritza to take a stand! You've got support all over the state! Keep up the good work! Free Speech lives at UNR!! — It’s just going to take a brave student like Maritza to take a stand!

You’ve got support all over the state! Keep up the good work!

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]]> By: Allan Tan http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-911 Allan Tan Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:34:27 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2007/10/02/student-claims-free-speech-violation/#comment-911 Why does the Sagebrush insist on painting Maritza Perez as a victim? The language in this article is so cliche; I especially love the phrase "Perez bickered with ResLife..." Because that's not a stereotypical image, right? And that picture? Come on, Sagebrush, is this how all strong women are to be portrayed across your pages? Why does the Sagebrush insist on painting Maritza Perez as a victim? The language in this article is so cliche; I especially love the phrase “Perez bickered with ResLife…” Because that’s not a stereotypical image, right?

And that picture? Come on, Sagebrush, is this how all strong women are to be portrayed across your pages?

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