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	<title>Comments on: Students turn to pepper spray, stun guns for protection</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which "Second Amendment Activists" have you polled on this?

As of the day you turn 21 in Nevada you can get a CCW. Its not difficult provided you can pass the background and shooting exams as Nevada is a "Shall Issue" state when it comes to getting a CCW. You do not have to provide a reason to get the permit, just pass the test with your firearm, pass a written exam proving you understand and informed of the law regarding the use of deadly force, and that you can pass an FBI background investigation. 

Before you go around making blanket statement for those of us who really are Second Amendment Activists, make sure you've actually spoken to a few who know the law and are up to date on the issues and nuances in those laws. 

And the idea of a fence? Nothing like shooting fish in a barrel I suppose. Look at VT, the guy was smart enough to lock the doors in the building he was shooting people in, giving no avenue for escape. A fence would serve in much the same capacity.

It is the right and duty of every person to defend themselves. It is not right, nor should it be legal, that Universities strip the adults who attend them of the inherent and inalienable right of self defense. Nevada CCW laws, in the understanding of negligence and tortfeasor responsibility, provide that if a place insists you be unarmed on your entry and exit that during such a time that you are within those boundaries that the entity who stripped you of your weapon or right to bare that weapon is responsible for your absolute safety. Its a farce to think that this shouldn't apply to the University just because Glick hides behind the misconceptions of people like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which &#8220;Second Amendment Activists&#8221; have you polled on this?</p>
<p>As of the day you turn 21 in Nevada you can get a CCW. Its not difficult provided you can pass the background and shooting exams as Nevada is a &#8220;Shall Issue&#8221; state when it comes to getting a CCW. You do not have to provide a reason to get the permit, just pass the test with your firearm, pass a written exam proving you understand and informed of the law regarding the use of deadly force, and that you can pass an FBI background investigation. </p>
<p>Before you go around making blanket statement for those of us who really are Second Amendment Activists, make sure you&#8217;ve actually spoken to a few who know the law and are up to date on the issues and nuances in those laws. </p>
<p>And the idea of a fence? Nothing like shooting fish in a barrel I suppose. Look at VT, the guy was smart enough to lock the doors in the building he was shooting people in, giving no avenue for escape. A fence would serve in much the same capacity.</p>
<p>It is the right and duty of every person to defend themselves. It is not right, nor should it be legal, that Universities strip the adults who attend them of the inherent and inalienable right of self defense. Nevada CCW laws, in the understanding of negligence and tortfeasor responsibility, provide that if a place insists you be unarmed on your entry and exit that during such a time that you are within those boundaries that the entity who stripped you of your weapon or right to bare that weapon is responsible for your absolute safety. Its a farce to think that this shouldn&#8217;t apply to the University just because Glick hides behind the misconceptions of people like you.
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		<title>By: timothy whitney</title>
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		<dc:creator>timothy whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ian

i have spoken with 2nd amendment activists.  if you talk to these people, they will agree with me that CCWP's only worsens this problem.  it would increase deaths if there was a shooting.  also it is very difficult to get one.  most on campus are unable in the state of nevada to get one purely because they are too young.

heck building a fence would increase our saftey better than having CCWP's for students on campus.

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<p>i have spoken with 2nd amendment activists.  if you talk to these people, they will agree with me that CCWP&#8217;s only worsens this problem.  it would increase deaths if there was a shooting.  also it is very difficult to get one.  most on campus are unable in the state of nevada to get one purely because they are too young.</p>
<p>heck building a fence would increase our saftey better than having CCWP&#8217;s for students on campus.</p>
<p>timothy whitney
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stun guns and pepper spray are nice, but for the sorts of crime that UNR is getting all too well known for, they are largely ineffective. Disabling someone works for a quick second, but putting them down for good works better.

With all of the campus shootings, abductions, rapes, assaults and other nasty stuff that is coming down out there, go get your Concealed Carry Weapon permit (CCW)and learn how to defend yourself. There's a difference between "disabled" and dead, and in these cases, I think I'd rather the assailant was dead.

Someone really needs to start putting the screws to Glick that safety needs to be a key concern at UNR. HEY GLICK: ALLOW CCW HOLDERS TO CARRY AT UNR! Its not a safe place to be, and you're limiting the rights of a good many of your students to defend themselves. Are you going to assign a cop to every group of pretty girls? You don't have the manpower for that!

Students: Get your rights, defend yourselves. Its the only option in an insane world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stun guns and pepper spray are nice, but for the sorts of crime that UNR is getting all too well known for, they are largely ineffective. Disabling someone works for a quick second, but putting them down for good works better.</p>
<p>With all of the campus shootings, abductions, rapes, assaults and other nasty stuff that is coming down out there, go get your Concealed Carry Weapon permit (CCW)and learn how to defend yourself. There&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;disabled&#8221; and dead, and in these cases, I think I&#8217;d rather the assailant was dead.</p>
<p>Someone really needs to start putting the screws to Glick that safety needs to be a key concern at UNR. HEY GLICK: ALLOW CCW HOLDERS TO CARRY AT UNR! Its not a safe place to be, and you&#8217;re limiting the rights of a good many of your students to defend themselves. Are you going to assign a cop to every group of pretty girls? You don&#8217;t have the manpower for that!</p>
<p>Students: Get your rights, defend yourselves. Its the only option in an insane world.
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		<title>By: timothy whitney</title>
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		<dc:creator>timothy whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is there so much paranoia?  O that’s right, the university has done nothing to make the student body safer.  They are hoping and praying, like all of us, that the rapist is caught.  If he is caught then the university won’t have to spend thousands of dollars to make us safer.  But for me, I can not put a price on my fellow students’ safety.  We shouldn’t have to buy stun guns and pepper spray.  The university should solve the problem; call boxes and cameras in the parking garages.  If the university has done something to make us safer, let us know.  There are other schools in high crime areas; they are not as paranoid as us because their university is protecting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there so much paranoia?  O that’s right, the university has done nothing to make the student body safer.  They are hoping and praying, like all of us, that the rapist is caught.  If he is caught then the university won’t have to spend thousands of dollars to make us safer.  But for me, I can not put a price on my fellow students’ safety.  We shouldn’t have to buy stun guns and pepper spray.  The university should solve the problem; call boxes and cameras in the parking garages.  If the university has done something to make us safer, let us know.  There are other schools in high crime areas; they are not as paranoid as us because their university is protecting them.
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