States consider guns on campuses
With Northern Illinois University’s Feb. 14 shooting and the Virginia Tech shooting last spring on people’s minds, the debate on whether guns on campus would help make students safer continues.“I see both sides,” said Jessica Richards, a 21-year-old art history major. “On one hand, people would be able to respond faster if something like a shooting were to happen on campus. At the same time, I don’t know how I feel knowing the guy sitting next to me in class is armed.”
Six state legislatures – Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio and South Carolina – introduced bills this year that would allow people with concealed weapons permits to carry on public school and college campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
Three other legislatures – Alabama, Michigan and Tennessee – are looking at bills that would allow faculty and staff to carry concealed weapons on campus.
Nevada isn’t among the states currently looking at the issue, but state senators and assemblymen both agreed that campus safety would most likely come up in the Nevada legislature’s session next year.
Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley said she hasn’t heard of any bills that would allow people to carry concealed weapons on campus.
“Though I haven’t heard anything yet, anything could happen in the next session,” Buckley said. “I know that because of recent events people are very concerned with safety on our campuses.”
Minority Leader Sen. Dina Titus, D-Las Vegas, said she also hadn’t heard of anything being proposed in the senate.
Last October, Regent Stavros Anthony proposed arming faculty after they went through training to become reserve officers, but the Board of Regents voted against the proposal.
Anthony said he would not bring the proposal back, but hoped that safety measures were being considered.
“We need to be able to defend and ensure the safety of our students,” he said.
University of Nevada, Reno President Milton Glick said he wouldn’t support the measure if the legislature brought up the issue in its next session in support of allowing permit carriers to bring concealed weapons on campus.
“That doesn’t create a safer university,” Glick said. “In my opinion, no matter what security measures you take, if someone wants to carry a gun on campus and shoot others, then they will. Adding more guns to that won’t help the situation.”
UNR Police Chief Adam Garcia said the police department would also be against any proposals to allow permit carriers to carry guns on campus, though they would enforce the policy if it did become law.
“Most police officers would rather respond to a shooting, not a shootout,” Garcia said.
One student group, Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC), has gained national attention in the debate. The group started a few days after the Virginia Tech shooting last year, which left 32 students and faculty dead. With more than 19,000 members in its Facebook group, the students in the group argue that concealed weapons would help in shooting situations because students are able to respond faster than police officers. The group does not have any chapters at Nevada colleges.
Since the Nothern Illinois Shooting a few weeks ago, the group gained 8,000 members around the country, said Stephen Feltoon, SCCC’s Midwest regional director.
“What we’re trying to do is change state laws and school policies to allow people to carry concealed weapons on campus and enhance their own personal safety,” Feltoon said.
Feltoon pointed out that 12 colleges – all the public colleges and universities in Utah, Colorado State University in Fort Collins, Colo. and Blue Ridge Community College in Weyers Cave, Va. – allow concealed weapons on campus and have not had any violent incidents on their campuses.
But Garcia said there are no statistics that prove guns prevent violence on campus or help in violent situations.
People for the idea argue that permit holders go through sufficient training, so they wouldn’t be endangering anyone.
In order to get a concealed weapon in Washoe County, a person must fill out an application with the sheriff’s office, be 21, take an eight-hour competency course, go through a background check and be fingerprinted, said Deputy Brooke Keiths of the Washoe County Sheriff’s Office. People applying for permits cannot be convicted felons, judicially declared incompetent or have any driving under the influence charges over the last five years, among other requirements.
“It’s ridiculous to say that these gun carriers would harm people,” said Robert Smith, president of the Nevada State Rifle and Pistol Association. “People who are carrying concealed weapons are some of the most trusted people.”
But others say that any guns on campus make them feel uncomfortable.
“I think it’s a very frightening idea,” said Kassi Stabler, a 21-year-old philosophy major. “With all the shootings that go on as it is, I don’t want to know that people actually have guns on top of that, on top of the worry of if someone just brings one.”
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5 Responses to “States consider guns on campuses”
Sometimes its just common sense you have to think about.
I think Chris Rock put it best:
“Never go to clubs with metal detectors. Sure it feels safe inside. But what about all those niggas waiting outside with guns? They know you ain’t got one.”
All a “firearms free” zone establishes is another place where those who would like to do harm know you don’t have the means to defend yourself.
There’s this old bit of wisdom someone once shared with me when I was young and idealistic and thought guns in the hands of the common folk was a bad thing.
“I’d rather have one and not need it then need it and not have it.”
Over the years, and in the places I’ve been since UNR (Where evidently these days the “N” stands for “nowledge”) the above mantra has served me well. I find it a little concerning that someone’s idealistic bullshit, and self adulating youthful knowledge of the entire world could strip me, or someone I love, of the ability to make absolutely sure they get to come home every night.
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To paraphrase Dr. Glick, Since we haven’t had any VT style crimes here at UNR there is no need for CCW holders to have guns. I guess he thinks that it would be far better to wait until there is one before we let people protect themselves.
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“I think it’s a very frightening idea,” said Kassi Stabler, a 21-year-old philosophy major. “With all the shootings that go on as it is, I don’t want to know that people actually have guns on top of that, on top of the worry of if someone just brings one.”
Honey, an armed society is a polite society. Hiding your head in the sand and pretending guns don’t exist is not the solution. Instead, familiarize yourself with guns(they’re not demonic tools of Satan, I promise) and take advantage of your right to defend YOUR LIFE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. The good ole’ boys who wrote that constitutional right knew what they were doing. Besides, statistically CCW carriers have the lowest incident of crime than any other group, let alone gun related crimes. That should help you sleep at night.
“I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy” -unknown
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I submitted this as a letter to the editor, but as they didn’t print it I’ll post it here.
Your March 4th article entitled “States consider guns on Campuses” had issues that need addressing.
Dr. Glick stated his UNSUBSTANTIATED OPINION that a firearm on campus “doesn’t create a safer university”. I disagree strongly and state that when the subject concerns my life and safety I would prefer facts, not opinions. The fact is, because he currently refuses permission for honest, law-abiding adult CCW holders to carry on campus ONLY the criminals are armed. Please explain how a woman who is attacked on campus by an armed assailant is made safer by your policy, which restricts possession of weapons to the criminals. If the victim has a legal CCW and is allowed to carry she has a chance of defending herself. No guarantee of winning, but at least a chance. Witness the CCW holder who saved her church congregation in Colorado.
Reference Chief Garcia’s statements regarding his ignorance of firearms crime prevention statistics, all he has to do is go to Getchell and read “More Guns, Less Crime” by Dr. John Lott. In this book, he could find substantial information regarding crime reduction due to citizens with concealed weapons.
Thanks for the inspiration; look for a UNR SCCC chapter soon.
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Soooooooo, what Chief Garcia is saying, is that he’d rather arrive on scene to draw a chalk outline around the body of a student, than arrive on scene to shoot a bad guy? Too bad this guy doesn’t remember that when he and his brothers took their jobs, it might mean having to put their necks on the line to save a life. If they have a problem with that, they should leave the job.
His argument has no logic. If the guy is more interested in responding to a shooting as opposed to a shootout, basically saying that they have no interest in helping innocent victims, then they shouldn’t be against proposals that allow the law-abiding citizens to defend themselves. If there’s gonna be a chalk line drawn anyway, I’d rather it be an outline of the aggressor’s body as opposed to the victim’s.
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