Comments on: Students for Liberty circulate online ‘abolish ASUN’ petition http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/ Serving the students of the University of Nevada, Reno since 1893. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:58:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: A Infinite Jest http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-116543 A Infinite Jest Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:25:28 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-116543 That argument is like saying the court jester is a hypocrite for taking off his clothes to mock the emperor. The whole point was to mock as mercilessly as possible everything wrong with the ASUN. Literally the only thing difference between our event and any other is that we brought discussion to campus, had over a thousand attendees, had a message, had ponies, and just so happened to call our event 'wasteful'. Had we not said ourselves said what we were doing was a complete farce, I doubt there would have even been half as much of a response.... That argument is like saying the court jester is a hypocrite for taking off his clothes to mock the emperor. The whole point was to mock as mercilessly as possible everything wrong with the ASUN.

Literally the only thing difference between our event and any other is that we brought discussion to campus, had over a thousand attendees, had a message, had ponies, and just so happened to call our event ‘wasteful’.

Had we not said ourselves said what we were doing was a complete farce, I doubt there would have even been half as much of a response….

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]]> By: Alpha Wolf http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-116541 Alpha Wolf Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:20:27 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-116541 Wasteful Spending, Keep in mind that more than half of what is in ASUN's budget is nondiscretionary spending for administrative faculty (hint, they aren't students). See links below. http://vislupiestgrex.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-student-government.html http://vislupiestgrex.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-student-government-part-two.html http://vislupiestgrex.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-student-government-part-25.html Remember, any cuts would be to ASUN's discretionary spending. Wasteful Spending,
Keep in mind that more than half of what is in ASUN’s budget is nondiscretionary spending for administrative faculty (hint, they aren’t students).

See links below.

http://vislupiestgrex.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-student-government.html
http://vislupiestgrex.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-student-government-part-two.html
http://vislupiestgrex.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-student-government-part-25.html

Remember, any cuts would be to ASUN’s discretionary spending.

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]]> By: M http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-116528 M Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:18:43 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-116528 Fail. Utter fail. You guys made your point when you simply got the approval to do it. But you actually went and became some HUGE hypocrites when you actually spent the money! You are no better than those you want to abolish! You are WORSE, in fact. I'd bet you spent more than the vast majority of clubs and I'd also bet that the clubs that have spent more than you have spent it doing something worthwhile and probably educational (perhaps some sort of trip or something). To sum it up: Could have been a great statement on how the ASUN will give money to anyone for anything. Ended up being worse than those you're fighting against. Good job! Fail. Utter fail. You guys made your point when you simply got the approval to do it. But you actually went and became some HUGE hypocrites when you actually spent the money! You are no better than those you want to abolish! You are WORSE, in fact. I’d bet you spent more than the vast majority of clubs and I’d also bet that the clubs that have spent more than you have spent it doing something worthwhile and probably educational (perhaps some sort of trip or something).

To sum it up: Could have been a great statement on how the ASUN will give money to anyone for anything. Ended up being worse than those you’re fighting against. Good job!

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]]> By: Wasteful Spending http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-115931 Wasteful Spending Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:30:24 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-115931 Kaitlin, The point being made is that ASUN is grossly overfunded and obviously lacks the leadership to know how to spend the money. If ASUN had even 20% of the funding they have now then the clubs who are properly using their funds would still get money, and the ones who are asking for $1200 in pizza will not. As for the way they are spending the money they received, I believe it is the only way to truly drive home the point. Giving it to charity would be indirectly having ASUN giving money to charity. This way we can see how much they really don't care where the money goes only that we have a great club system where everyone can participate. To be clear I do not support the abolishment of ASUN; rather a complete reconstruction. Cut their funding and see if they can actually contribute something to the student body. Maybe they'll have real debates and care about being elected as well...who knows. Kaitlin,

The point being made is that ASUN is grossly overfunded and obviously lacks the leadership to know how to spend the money. If ASUN had even 20% of the funding they have now then the clubs who are properly using their funds would still get money, and the ones who are asking for $1200 in pizza will not. As for the way they are spending the money they received, I believe it is the only way to truly drive home the point. Giving it to charity would be indirectly having ASUN giving money to charity. This way we can see how much they really don’t care where the money goes only that we have a great club system where everyone can participate.

To be clear I do not support the abolishment of ASUN; rather a complete reconstruction. Cut their funding and see if they can actually contribute something to the student body. Maybe they’ll have real debates and care about being elected as well…who knows.

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]]> By: Kaitlin Godbey http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-115926 Kaitlin Godbey Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:29:15 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-115926 Abolish ASUN, With your indirect message of calling me a whiner, you seemed to have missed the point. To reiterate, I understand the point that you are trying to make. I just want to hear your side when it comes to properly funded clubs. I have been to your website, watched your video, and followed you on facebook. I think it is important for students to be involved when it comes to deciding where the students' money is being spent. I do not agree with the event you are hosting. You knew how to work the system, and although the frivolous purchases you made with the ASUN money is to make a point, did you think it may have made just as much of a point giving it directly back to the students? Or, donating it to a better cause rather than entertaining the idea of ponies and bounce houses? Abolish ASUN,
With your indirect message of calling me a whiner, you seemed to have missed the point. To reiterate, I understand the point that you are trying to make. I just want to hear your side when it comes to properly funded clubs. I have been to your website, watched your video, and followed you on facebook. I think it is important for students to be involved when it comes to deciding where the students’ money is being spent. I do not agree with the event you are hosting. You knew how to work the system, and although the frivolous purchases you made with the ASUN money is to make a point, did you think it may have made just as much of a point giving it directly back to the students? Or, donating it to a better cause rather than entertaining the idea of ponies and bounce houses?

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]]> By: Abolish ASUN http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-115593 Abolish ASUN Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:23:17 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-115593 www.AbolishASUN.com for anyone interested. www.WhineInTheNevadaSagebrushCommentsIfYouHappenToDisagreeWithThisPetition.com for anyone who isn't. http://www.AbolishASUN.com for anyone interested.

http://www.WhineInTheNevadaSagebrushCommentsIfYouHappenToDisagreeWithThisPetition.com for anyone who isn’t.

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]]> By: Kaitlin Godbey http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2010/03/02/students-for-liberty-circulate-online-%e2%80%98abolish-asun%e2%80%99-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-115509 Kaitlin Godbey Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:42:21 +0000 http://nevadasagebrush.com/?p=14205#comment-115509 I understand the point that Students for Liberty is trying to make, but what about the clubs that do spend the money well? Without ASUN's financial support, trips to compete and gain valuable experiences may not be possible. I understand the point that Students for Liberty is trying to make, but what about the clubs that do spend the money well? Without ASUN’s financial support, trips to compete and gain valuable experiences may not be possible.

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